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The Sākyan Mahānāma visits Lomasavangīsa
at the Nigrodhārāma in Kapilavatthu and asks him if the learner's way of life is
the same as that of a Tathāgata. No, says the Elder; a learner strives to
abandon the five hindrances (nīvarana); the arahants have already completely
destroyed them. S. v.327f.

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